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O fanatismo de Ayn Rand e do conservadorismo cristão

100,000 ‘Atlas Shrugged’ DVDs Recalled for Perfectly Hilarious Reason

In what appears to be a legitimate press release on the blog of the official Atlas Shrugged Part I website, the producers of the film have announced that they will “replace more than 100,000 title sheets appearing on the Atlas Shrugged Part 1 DVD and Blu-ray versions.” Sounds like a pain in the ass. Why? Did child porn pics somehow show up on them? No! But the ultimate Randian curse word — “self-sacrifice” — did, and that’s worse.

We still aren’t 100% sure that they’re not screwing with us, but this is the horrible error that must not stay on the title sheet:

The 1957 novel, Atlas Shrugged, is known in philosophical and political circles for presenting a cogent argument advocating a society driven by rational self-interest. On the back of the film’s retail DVD and Blu-ray however, the movie’s synopsis contradictorily states “AYN RAND’s timeless novel of courage and self-sacrifice comes to life…

Self-sacrifice is for idiots, duh! Ayn Rand used to mock poor beggars for being so poor. “Self-interest” is more like it. The good news is that Randroids who’ve already purchased this sacrilege consumer product can fix it themselves, just like Dagny Taggart would:

Atlas Productions has setup a web page for consumers of the DVD to request a replacement title sheet free of charge: http://www.AtlasShruggedMovie.com/title-sheet. The new title sheet will more accurately read “AYN RAND’s timeless novel of rational self-interest comes to life…”


Has anyone seen Atlas Shrugged Part I? I rented it the other night and loved it. The trains go ZOOM!


Does this mean that conservative Christians will finally realize Ayn Rand is not for them? I seem to recall self-sacrifice being a pretty important part of Christianity. My magic 8 ball says “outlook not so good.”

promoted by mightyJew
No, no, no. Jesus’ self-sacrifice is a pretty important part of conservative Christianity.ETA: for clarity

Edited by Haikukitty at 11/11/11 2:54 PM
promoted by MissNormaDesmond
My understanding (raised Catholic, so probably not totally accurate) is that you can be saved on faith alone. By accepting Jesus as your savior you’re set, even if you routinely pee on the homeless.

promoted by MissNormaDesmond
Don’t know what to tell you. I grew up in a CC family hearing about how great Ayn Rand and Objectivism were but always thought it was kind of silly because…well, no human can truly be objective or rational, duh. But a few years ago, I started doing some research into the philosophy and found that it in no way supports the christian viewpoint. Just to paraphrase some of the thing Ayn said:You cannot give rights to a lump of protoplasm.
To force the actual to sacrifice for the potential is vicious.
Faith is the denial of Reason.
Religion teaches us that God is not man, spirit is not flesh, heaven is not earth, that A is not A. It teaches us nothing and calls it knowing.

So I sent these quotes to my father asking how CC’s could embrace this lady (who cheated on her husband) as their patron saint. I’m still waiting on a reply.

promoted by spence900
Where did you go to CCD? They hammered “faith AND good works” home to me. Although the second part is usually not a part of evangelical doctrine, which is something you should bring up next time you’re in a shouting match with someone trying to convert you.
You can’t convince me Jesus wasn’t a poor!
Not actually Catholic-accurate, but absolutely spot on for Evangelical self-sanctification.
Roman Catholicism says “faith and good works.” Protestantism says “faith alone.”Incidentally, both stances are written in the New Testament, as early Christianity was dominated by tensions between Jewish Christians (first stance) and Gentile Christians (St. Paul; faith alone). Largely, it’s mostly a matter of semantics, as even the most ardent conservative Christians tend to see one’s works as an outward sign of faith. And a “good work” with a selfish motivation (think medieval indulgences, which put Martin Luther into a fit)…are they really “good works” after all?

promoted by spence900
I’m pretty sure peeing on the homeless is stone cold evidence that you haven’t accepted Jesus into your heart.
But that’s just it. [They] don’t have to actually embrace the teachings of Jesus. [They] just have to say [they] do.
This is what happens when you’ve already self-selected for gullibility.
Having been raised Mormon, we actually did frequently address self-sacrifice and being judged on your actions as well as your beliefs. It was actually pretty cool. And then everybody would leave church, not do any of it and be conservative dicks.

promoted by spence900
That’s what I meant, I probably should have clarified a little more.

promoted by spence900
Yeah, I realized when I saw the responses that I hadn’t clarified the difference between what I was raised to do as a Catholic and what my understanding was of Protestantism.

promoted by spence900
I think that is a universal problem with religion. Catholics; sin on Friday, confession Saturday, mass on Sunday, repeat.

promoted by spence900
Yeah, I brainfarted out on that comment. I went to Catholic school (for my whole life, even college) and there was a huuuuuuuge emphasis on good works and sacrifice. My parents are also social-justice Catholics; whenever one of us would complain about something stupid growing up, they would immediately pack us in the car and press-gang us into working in the soup kitchen in DC.I’ll add this in my defense (though there is little): my family and every other Catholic I have ever met draw a distinction between Catholicism and Christianity. Therein lies the confusion in my Friday-weakened brain.

Edited by Franny Glass at 11/11/11 6:13 PM
promoted by 19centuryman
My parents used to make that threat all the time and my brother and I would call their bluff. I don’t think we lived within an hour and half of the nearest soup kitchen.
Yeah, we lived about a 20 minute drive away from one of the shelters in South East DC and it was no bluff. I once said something incredibly stupid about being poor (we weren’t, we just weren’t rich like everyone else at my school) and my dad silently drove me to Anacostia and said, “This is poverty. This is desperation. You are luckier than most people on this Earth, and these people are not. That’s what you do with luck, you help those with none.”That one stuck.

promoted by 19centuryman

spence900 @Franny Glass Your dad sounds beyond awesome.
I don’t think it necessarily has anything to do with commonality between Christianity and Ayn Rand. It probably has more to do with a common love of being an asshole that many conservative Christians and Randian fans share.
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